tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-65797171323159209552024-03-07T22:03:42.630-08:00TRANSSEXUAL WOMEN OPPOSING SELF IDUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-24084985096556626912019-02-25T13:06:00.001-08:002019-02-25T13:09:46.320-08:00<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: large;">CAN TRANSSEXUAL
AND TRANSGENDER<br /><br /> WOMEN FAIRLY COMPETE AGAINST WOMEN <br /><br />AND GIRLS IN SPORT?</span></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Earlier this month celebrated
tennis star Martina Navratilova took the brave step to publicly comment about
the changes being made around the world that are effectively allowing
transgender athletes, born men, to self-identify as women and compete against women
and girls. This is often possible with minimal, or sometimes no, physical modifications to their
bodies.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">That may read like an early
‘April Fools’ joke to most rational people. Sports are segregated between male and
female competitors for a very simple reason. Men have stronger bodies developed
by evolution and genetics to hunt and fight and that convey many natural
advantages over women.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Yes, there are outliers and
extremes - tall women, short men and a range of skills that will allow the best
women to compete with the weakest men. However, for fairness of challenge, and
in most sports - not all, as men and women do compete against each other in a
few events - there remain different categories.<br /><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
That this is necessary is shown by the records and average scores in these
sports. Those set by men are consistently better than those set by women.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Even the strongest women versus the weakest
men are at a physiological disadvantage because of how their bodies have
developed in the early and pubertal years of life.</span></b></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">So far, so obvious - you would
think. <br /><br />Yet, Martina, in making these points, has been accused of bigotry and
hatred of trans people for expressing what are plain facts of biology. <br /><br />As a
prominent and well respected gay woman she has even been stripped of
representative roles after an outcry by transgender people who seem to think
their feelings matter more than reality.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Martina is not a bigot. Nor is
she transphobic. Many years ago she supported one of the first transsexual
sports stars - tennis player Renee Richards - in her quest to be allowed to
play tennis as a woman after previously having a (modestly successful) career as a man.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Renee won that fight with the
authorities and had an equally unremarkable career on the women’s tour. Later
she worked with Martina as a friend and coach - hardly making Martina an
obvious transphobic bigot.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">It is worth noting - though -
that Renee herself now accepts that as she competed when an older woman she was
never likely to be superior to many younger female players. But at an earlier
age, she now agrees, she would have likely had an advantage simply as a result of how male
biology, puberty and her body had developed before transition.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We agree with this argument. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">It is important to stress, as
Martina does, but few in the media ever do, that there is a difference between
transsexual and transgender.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">A transsexual (TS) - as with
those of us writing this blog - has a medical problem in which we have the need
to alter our body to match the psychology of our inner selves. We do so via all
means available up to and including Gender Reassignment Surgery (GRS) which
changes external physiology and permanently removes the key source of, in the case of
TS women, testosterone. This powers much but not all of the bodily changes that
bring advantage. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Whereas someone who is
transgender (TG) simply wishes to express their gender identity differently and
may, but often does not, make permanent medical changes to their physiology. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Over 80% of transgender women
retain their penis and testes - the primary source of testosterone.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Transsexual women almost always remove it -
only in a few cases are there medical grounds preventing this on advice from doctors.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">So TS will usually have little
natural source of testosterone and very low levels in their body a year or so post GRS.
This will often be at the low end or even below the female range - as all women do have
some T (testosterone) in their body.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Whereas TG can only use drugs
to suppress their levels still naturally being produced and rarely can reduce
them to the normal low levels of women. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Consequently even on the one
measure presently used by some sporting bodies to determine whether trans
people should compete the numbers are set at a high bar in order to accommodate
TG people, not just TS. And that bar is many times the levels of T in the
bodies of most women AND of TS women. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">T levels on their own are only
one measure and post puberty have limited consequence on the differences in the
body that they have already conferred onto men. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">There will also be differences
depending on age of transition and at what stage T production is stopped by
surgery or drugs.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><br /><br /> </span>Put simply - a man
transitioning into a woman in their 40s - would not be able to eradicate many
of the advantages conveyed by their male body to have such meaningful effect.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Whereas someone doing so in their teens or
early 20s could do so to a greater extent. The time if or when they have
surgery would also make a difference. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">The bottom line - though -
remains that natal bodily advantages exist for all those born male over all of
those born women - other things just define how more or less that advantage can
be modified. And that is not a simple one size fits all.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We have some thoughts on ways
forward that we will post separately after this message. But you might first notice two key bottom
lines here that are very telling.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">1: T levels allowed in sport
participation can be up to 20 times higher than normal female levels or
the levels post op TS women achieve. This high range figure is to give access to
those TG who do not intend to make permanent bodily changes. But if T levels
matter as much as is being claimed in adapting the body - then they will have a clear edge over a TS
women they may compete against - making it even on that basis unfair.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">So how exactly can they
possibly be in fair competition with women who undeniably have a disadvantage
even against we post op TS women who acknowledge our body retains significant edges
given prior to our transition?</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">2: We are talking here about
transwomen and not mentioning TS or TG men. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Why? </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Almost one third of all adult
TS and two thirds of younger TG today are girls who live as boys. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We are not discussing them here
because someone born and going through puberty as a girl will never have all the
same strengths and physiology of a male body even if taking testosterone to
build muscle mass. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
The lack of concern over fair competition against men by trans men occurs
because there is little evidence they will be a significant threat to born male
athletes.</span></b></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Does that not necessarily imply the
opposite conclusion when the argument is posed from the direction of trans
women?</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">If no male athletes are fearing the invasion
of trans men in their midst, it should be more than clear why female athletes
DO see a threat to both their safety - in contact sports - <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and to their hopes and dreams of success and
setting records given the disadvantage they will always start under.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><br /><span style="font-size: large;">
POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO TRANS SPORTS PARTICIPATION</span>.<br />
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Can we find a way that more fairly allows trans people to participate in sports?</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">The first question perhaps is - should
we even want to do this? </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">All people should be
encouraged to take part in sporting activity to maintain a healthy body.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And in none competitive situations we do see
a different case to allow participation than those where livelihoods or careers
are jeopardized by an unfair challenge from trans people.<br />
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Many who have a medical condition reluctantly accept the limitations on their
body’s capabilities. It is a trade-off to live a happy balanced life which
might restrict some possibilities whilst enhancing others. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We think most transsexuals
would understand this life balance argument in sports. If it means that for
reasons of safety and fairness that they cannot enter major sporting events or
turn professional in this endeavor because their situation would impact the careers of other
sports people, then we believe they would accept that consequence.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Unfortunately, we would not
anticipate a similar level of understanding from transgender activists based on
what we see from their reactions to the Martina Navratilova statement.<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">This may be because TG view
transition as a lifestyle expression and regard validation in their identity as
essential to ongoing mental health. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Whereas TS are resolving a
medical condition in order to live as normal a life as possible but are aware
of the trade-off between acceptance by society over rights of access and the
implications of that access for other people.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">So, are there other options
with regards to sport? <br />
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One often suggested is to create transgender teams and competitions. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Can that
work?</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">An immediate problem is one of
numbers.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There are currently under 5000
people out of the 65 million living in the UK who have legally changed their sex
marker - about 3700 TS women and 1250 TS men. Currently you must be medically diagnosed as TS not self diagnosed as TG
in order to do this.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">There are believed perhaps two
or three times as many TS who have not applied for legal status. But numbers even
on this measure are tiny and creating meaningful sports competitions between
them hard to see as possible. 1250 TS men would have a difficult time creating
any serious sports competition at all.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">On the other hand there are an
estimated 500,000 TG men and women - more evenly split between genders. Possibly
there would be a chance of some kind of competition here. But the question then
is, how do you determine who goes where?<br />
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Remember that on T levels alone TG women have a big edge over TS women and that
is without taking into account the fact that many TG do nothing to their bodies
to alter them physically and so will have the natal advantage or disadvantage
against all others who have.<br />
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How many categories will you need to define and who does all the testing to
measure fairness? This could easily be as impossible to work with resulting low numbers
in multiple categories as it was with transsexuals alone.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Separating men v women in
sports seems fair and in none trans situations usually is, but it becomes less
fair in terms of TS & TG and the vast differences between a ‘trans woman’
with a fully male body identifying as a woman and a fully transitioned person
who took puberty blockers then had surgery and never gained most natal sex advantages.
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Here it is quite clear we face an almost impossible problem of sub division.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">So, is there a way to grant
access more fairly to trans people into opposite natal sex categories of sport?</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><br /></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We would argue that priority
number one has to be safety.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There are
some sports where a male bodied person, even a post op TS such as the authors of this blog, could be a significant
threat of accidental harm to a female competitor. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">This must always be the first
deciding factor and, if there is any doubt, the option must be to exclude.<br />
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Beyond that point, perhaps there is a way in which sports scientists could get
together and properly define a series of measures that go well beyond the testosterone
level tests presently used by some sports to grant access.<br />
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We do not believe T levels alone are anywhere near enough and that they are set
too high to be balanced towards inclusivity and away from fairness to
women.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> The latter must be the primary aim not the former.</span><br />
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One sensible option where inclusion might be discussed as a possibility would
be if individual trans people as a condition of entry into a competitive sport have their entire body
scanned and measured so that things like muscle mass, bone density, arm and
thigh strength and any other factors deemed an advantage by sports scientists
are carefully assessed and regularly checked. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Then, perhaps, some kind of
scale can be defined against the average of natal sex competitors they will face to factor in
a handicap. This can then be applied against trans competitors that removes the edge that they will
otherwise always have.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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Or, in the case of trans men competitors, where the balance may be more
difficult to judge because testosterone is injected to boost natal levels,
possibly sometimes a positive handicap to balance out fairness may be required
if competing against natal men.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"></span></b><br /></div>
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"></span></b><div style="text-align: justify;">
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">We are unsure whether such a solution is either practical or would be regarded as fair by other athletes, but to us it seems the minimum starting point for any discussion.</span></b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">The aim should be to seek a balanced and fair competition that does not actively discriminate against women and girls. </span></b></div>
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That surely has to be the main consideration - second only to safety - when we open up any debate about how to resolve this difficult question.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></div>
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</span></b><br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-45785079472895815292019-02-12T08:40:00.000-08:002019-02-12T12:25:53.349-08:00WHY WE TRANSSEXUALS ARE LEAVING THE STONEWALL UMBRELLA <br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">STATEMENT: -</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We are a group
of transsexual men and women - different human beings sharing one thing. Each
of us knew early in life that something was wrong. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Physically we
were defined as one sex but had internal dissonance that we were the other. It
manifests to us as an overwhelming body/mind miss match, but its cause is not
assumed or yet known. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Faced with this
we did what most people would do confronting gender dysphoria - seek help from
doctors, be examined, look for causes, try solutions and only after lengthy
physical and psychological assessment consider surgical and hormonal transition
to adapt our sexual characteristics.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Some of us are
passing through this process. Others completed these stages decades ago. We
accept our transition is an accommodation but it is the recommended medical
pathway.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">With safeguards
this process works. We are able to live happy, productive lives and contribute
to society in many ways. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Our legal rights
were once few but we lived peacefully and respectfully with others and got on
with our lives.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Things changed
around the turn of the century when the GRA (Gender Recognition Act) was
created in the UK. Parliament in 2004 was told by doctors that about 5000
transsexuals would apply. 15 years later 4910 have. So this was not reflecting
a sudden fad. It was well predicted by medicine after decades of study.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Things have
altered dramatically and we are very concerned. The GRA was a mutual bond of
trust between us and society. For the right to be legally defined as the sex we
transition into, we accept a need for lengthy assessment and gatekeeping. We also
accept exemptions where in things such as refuges, shortlists and sports one on
one assessment is made and we can be excluded.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Then Stonewall,
a charity advising the government, promoted a 'transgender umbrella'. We 5000
transsexuals were made one tiny part of 500,000 now defined as trans or
transgender.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">There is a
bewildering array of others, from those who are genuinely gender confused or
identify as both genders, live as cross dressers, or appear to have
psychological problems. We are as puzzled by such concepts as many others. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">The reason is
simple - these are trans <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">gender </i>variations.
They come from discomfort with ability to express <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">gender</i> roles.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Trans <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">sexuals</i> are not driven by gender
expression - but have dysphoria caused by rejection of their bodily sex. Its
cause is not known but it produces severe distress. The important need of
transsexuals to physically transition results from this cause and there is a
consequent lack of necessity for physical transition for those who are trans
gender. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We respect the
rights of transgender people to express their lifestyle without repression. </span></b></div>
<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">However, gender
and sex are not the same and some of those seeking to remove all gatekeeping
were in the past medically excluded from the NHS transition process because
they did not have this dysphoria. Different treatment protocols and protections
for society may be appropriate in both cases and could be compromised if
treated as being equivalent.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">As such we fear
safety is at risk for those transitioning unwisely without considering all
options or being assessed for appropriate causes. Cases of de-transition are
being reported more often when, with gatekeeping, these were rare. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We also worry
about children who may be put on irreversible medication too young for them to
be sure whether they are trans gender or transsexual or something else that may
not require it. </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Much more
research is necessary but is often blocked by activism claiming it is
transphobic. We regard it as nothing of the sort, but rather essential to offer
better options for an insidious medical condition we wish upon nobody.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Consequently we
believe that as transsexuals we cannot continue as part of this Stonewall
umbrella, which, we feel, conflates a sex based medical condition with
lifestyle choices and gender expression. And makes statements and decisions we
disagree with profoundly.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Without claiming
to know causes for either condition nor arguing that sex can be literally
changed we see real dangers in equivocating things that require very different
treatment and have consequences that will also impact themselves on society
differently.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">We feel that, in
listening to this advice, government planning for self-ID into safe spaces that
are currently well gatekept by psychiatrists is doing a disservice to many
people - notably women and girls, the 5000 transsexuals for whom the GRA was
written specifically and the many thousands of others it may inadvisably
encourage to transition by making it too easy to do so. </span></b></div>
<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Potentially this
will have serious long term irretrievable consequences on those for whom
gatekeeping may before have given time for careful thought or deterred such
actions.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Therefore, the
undersigned, as transsexual men and women, formally advise that we no longer
wish to be considered part of the Stonewall umbrella.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">At present we
are 14 who have taken this stand but we believe that there are more of you
ready to offer support. If you feel able please make that known. <br />
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<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>If you are transsexual and agree
with our concerns, add your name, or a user name, initials, or just an
occupation to this statement. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Thank you.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;">Signed:- Amanda
Dee, Emma Haywood, Jennifer Kenyon, Leanne Mills, Jenny Randles, Melissa Symes, Gillian (electronic engineer), Sarah (broadcast engineer), Sarah
(university lecturer), Zia, FP (business owner), JY (support worker) & usernames -
babywantsbluevelvet & seven hex.</span></b></div>
Unknownnoreply@blogger.com19tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-5648479374600016782018-11-27T09:01:00.000-08:002018-11-27T09:08:24.910-08:00<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: x-large;"><strong>Defining the word transsexual</strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Our members have noticed the start of a new internet group - <em>Transsexual True Meaning</em> - seeking to redfine the word transsexual. </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> We were surprised by this for two reasons.</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> Firstly, as the originator of the group admits, transsexual has a well established definition that has existed for over 60 years </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Here is the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) entry:</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>:- <em>A person who has undergone treatment in order to acquire the physical characteristics of the opposite sex.</em></strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>The Cambridge English dictionary is similar</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>:- <em>Used to describe a person who has had medical treatment to change their sex.</em></strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>It adds an example of appropriate use in a sentence</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong><br /></strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>:- <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong><em>Bagger, who started life as a man and had a sex change operation, made history by becoming the first transsexual woman to play on the Ladies' European Tour</em>.</strong></span></strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Regardless of the rights or wrongs of a transsexual woman taking part on a ladies sporting tour - which we do take seriously - the meaning of the word is made clear by these world renowned authorities.</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>As you can see it differs from transgender in that it involves those who specifically alter their body physically to live as the opposite sex. <br /><br />We wish to make clear that we do not make the claim that biologically we can change sex as the dictionary definition might imply. However, we do what is medically possible toward that aim.</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong><br /></strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Transsexual is not simply a feeling or dressing up to resemble a man or woman by expressing gender stereotypes. It involves medically assisted major bodily change.</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Trans activism is pressing for self ID and has a much looser and wider concept of what the word transgender means. They have attempted to absorb transsexual into it and that idea has gained traction. <br /><br />As a consequence we transsexuals have become very protective of the word, much as women rightly have of their definitions. <br /><br />Trans activism accuses us of being old fashioned but the term says what it is and differentiates from the often non medically routed transgender identity which we consider important.</strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Not because we are better. We believe every person must earn respect through concern over the rights of others. Surgery does not change that.<br /><br /> However,transsexual and transgender are different and it sometimes matters - to put it bluntly - if a trans person has chosen to retain their natal sex organs (as many transgender do) or altered their body and removed them (as most transsexuals do). </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>It gives to others added information when judging a person in their presence. <br /><br />So using this word accurately matters, not just to us but often in particular to women.<br /><br />Of course, it matters to men, too, and there are transsexual men. About 30% of transsexuals transition female to male and make whatever bodily changes they can make too. </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Which brings us to the second concern. This new site wants to redefine transsexual as a person who is sexually attracted to a transgender person - because such people presently have no word to apply as others have heterosexual and homosexual.</strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>We think this suggestion was well intended and we cannot speak for how those who are in relationships with transgender men or women feel about themselves. <br /><br />They are free to decide if they are gay or straight in their perception and we would not seek to instruct that choice.</strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>As for someone in a relationship with a transsexual person most of us have one and these are again open to the individual to define as they prefer. </strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>There are transsexual women married to women and others married to men. The same is true for transsexual men. The proportions do not seem very different from non transsexual relationships. Though, of course, there are different social consequences that we would not seek to minimise.</strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong> Transsexuals under the present GRA rules since 2004 have been able to marry heterosexually and - since same sex marriage has more recently been legalised - can do so homosexually as well. </strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Our spouses are what they are. Men, women, straight or gay, and need no special word to define their relationships with us. </strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Indeed we suspect a heterosexual man married to one of us (and they do exist) would probably find it offensive to be told that they are now a transsexual for having such a loving relationship with someone they regard to be a woman.</strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>So, with respect, we would ask transgender people NOT to appropriate the dictionary definition of what we are - transsexual - in much the same way as they seem to be trying to dispute the dictionary definition of the word woman. That is equally unreasonable. </strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>We make clear we do not consider posters defining the word woman to be transphobic. They report the true dictionary description of the word much as we have done above with the word 'transsexual'.<br /><br />We support the official definition of the word woman. </strong></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><strong>So we request kindly that transgender activists please leave the word woman alone and allow the word transsexual to mean what it has meant since medically defined in the 1950s. </strong></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-48796494222747486742018-11-09T09:50:00.000-08:002018-11-09T09:50:49.581-08:00<br />
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<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">We
have been concerned by several stories in the media about horrific sounding
attacks by 'transgender women' - on both men and women. <br />
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A major issue is over the impact this has on crime statistics - specifically - <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">How are these crimes being recorded</i>? </span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">There
seems an implication that police are relying on what the arrested person declares
their sex to be and does not make further checks for fear of being accused of
transphobia.<br />
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In our view this would be unacceptable if it results in figures for violent
assaults carried out by women to be escalated in future records. <br />
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We wish to point out that under 5000 people in the UK have legally altered
their sex via the existing Gender Recognition Act, which requires psychological
assessment and medical approval in order to do so. <br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
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<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">Self-ID might be employed via the Equality Act in certain circumstances for
access to spaces, but in our opinion legal sex should be what is recorded in
terms of legality such as criminal charges and, even then, trans status could
also be indicated if it were relevant. <br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
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<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">Of under 5000 people who have legally altered their sex marker only at most
3000 are transsexual women who have also obtained a copy of a legally altered
birth certficate denoting this. </span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><br /></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">The
chances of all the recent 'trans women' arrested for violent offences being in
that number are slight, given the estimated 500,000 transgender people in the
UK. <br />
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Police are allowed to access birth certificate records during their
investigation of a crime even for those who are in this 3000. It is necessary to
do that for the true facts to be established and transparency against abuse of
identity during the commission of any crime - such as fraud - to be possible under the current
rules of the Gender Recognition Act.<br />
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We wonder how often police are actually doing this - and if not, then why not?<br />
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As transsexual women we support that right of access in legitimate
circumstances such as these. <br />
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We feel it is important that correct information is entered into crime
statistics and that it is a betrayal of women not to do so as the impact on
them from misleading data left for future generations is clear if this is not done. </span></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">It is also a betrayal of transsexual women such as the authors of this blog - who
followed all the existing rules. </span></span></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><br /></span></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "arial black" , "sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;">We were
medically and psychologically assessed in a process that involved lengthy
physical transition because we believed that society deserved that level of
reassurance. And we willingly left the
decision on whether our birth certificate marker should be changed to doctors, not
our own feelings.<br />
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If we achieved a change of legal status in the right way and yet accept that
police should still have access to accurate information, then how can it be
right to not correctly record someone in official statistics?<br /><br /> Especially not someone who has had no
medical and psychological assessment but is simply self-identifying to the
authorities as regards their apparent change of sex?</span></span></div>
Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-28815146900591814022018-10-22T13:56:00.000-07:002018-10-22T13:56:48.824-07:00<br /><br />
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<span style="font-size: x-large;">THE USE OF APPROPRIATION</span></h2>
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<span style="font-size: large;">We have been grateful for the many respectful replies we have received on here and on social media. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">It is heartening to know that our call for moderation and curbing the excessive use of language is something that others also support. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">However, there has been an increasing tendancy to see appropriation of intersex people brought into this debate. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">We wish to make clear that intersex conditions are not the same thing as being transsexual or transgender. We have been told this by more than one such person with an intersex condition and we urge that you listen to them and not seek a way to imply you are like them. It is unfair.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">These unfortunate people face a partially understood medical condition that carries many problems but is not known to be related to whatever is behind being transsexual.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">We fully support research by scientists wanting to look for causes of transsexualism - be they physical, psychological or sociological. Knowledge is power to help future generations deal with what we know is a traumatic experience. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">Yet we are very concerned to see some activists calling out academics who are endeavouring to fund meaningful investigation. Some even seek to get them into trouble with their colleges or employers just for doing this. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">That is utterly wrong. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">The search for a cause to transsexualism is a valid enterprise and we should not pre-determine any conclusion it might reach. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">Science is evidence led - not conducted only if it agrees to prove what someone wants to be true.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">In both of these actions we urge that those applying them for what they consider to be valid reasons please think again.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">Similarly, we have noticed analogies used on social media to make those with a gender critical perspective look as if they have reasons for their opinions that seem unpalatable. Not merely genuine viewpoints, which we accept that such views very often are .</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">We cannot and should not impose our beliefs onto anyone.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">Comparing treatment of transgender people with how the Nazi regime handled those of which they disapproved 75 years ago has become commonplace. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">And transsexuals who support the rights of women to self determine their boundaries - as we 14 creating this blog do - get called truscum or quislings and even collaborators with agents of terror.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">Many brave and honourable women challenged totalitarianism in occupied France and their sacrifice should not be demeaned. </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">As we approach Remembrance Sunday and the 100th anniversary of the end of the Great War the use of such analogies to blacken the reputation of any woman, or trans woman, who does not follow ideology is disrespectful.<br /> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"> It unfairly appropriates and also diminishes those women who stood against oppression in past generations.</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-66816631493293316412018-10-19T10:29:00.000-07:002018-10-19T10:59:02.587-07:00<h2>
UPDATE FRIDAY 19 OCTOBER 2018</h2>
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<span style="font-size: large;">The GRA Consultation has now closed.</span></h2>
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<span data-offset-key="8ne4a-0-0"><span data-text="true"><span data-offset-key="5q4l-0-0"><span data-text="true"><span data-offset-key="6ctd6-0-0"><span data-text="true">As you can see we are now 14 members of this informal gathering hoping to seek a way towards mutual understanding. <br /><br />There are other transsexuals supporting us and we<span data-offset-key="8ne4a-0-0"><span data-text="true"><span data-offset-key="5q4l-0-0"><span data-text="true"><span data-offset-key="6ctd6-0-0"><span data-text="true"> are grateful for their encouragement.<br /><br />We have been overwhelmed by your response on here and elsewhere. Thank you. There are a few replies from people who disagree with us but we respect your right to have a different opinion. We have not deleted these posts from comments. That is not how we intend to engage.<br /><br />Rather we seek to find a way to move this debate forward from the polarised attitudes that dominate social media. Disagreement is fine so long as we all respect one another's right to an opposing view and try to work together. If replies are civil then they can be critical.<br /><br />Words are too often used as weapons in a war of ideologies. This pushes discussion further apart. We need open discussion in search of a way forward that might be acceptable to all.<br /><br /> Hopefully, government will now be doing this and we would ask that the media, also, follow a more positive stance when seeking answers. <br /><br />It is easy to select examples of awful events or activities that prove your own beliefs. We do not minimise them. If they call for condemnation on either side we will do so without reservation. <br /><br />We have listened to your ideas and thank you for suggestions. <br /><br />Under consideration is finding a platform where discussion can be friendly and words that demean either side are excluded. Blogger is not designed for this but we will continue to post messages here and hope you, too, will continue to offer your thoughts. <br /><br />Hopefully we will find a place and time where we can have a good debate over a couple of hours, perhaps, as a trial run. Then, if that is successful, we can take it from there. <br /><br />You deserve to have your say free of the political ideology that has so far dominated all sides of this debate. That is why we are here. And we respect your help, advice and support in trying to achieve this aspiration. <br /><br />Watch out for our next update with further details of the next step that we hopefully take together.<br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">A STATEMENT TO THE MEDIA</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></h3>
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It is not the policy of this blog to approach the media. However, we welcome anyone making reference, or quoting from, its content if they so choose.<br /><br />Nonetheless we were asked to give a comment as the GRA consultation period ended. It was not used, but we thought you might like to see what we wanted to say. </h3>
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<i>Really this is all about respect. </i></h3>
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<i>Transsexual women have always respected women, because, whilst we do not claim to literally be one, we live as one through mutual respect and a bond of trust between us and them over many years.</i></h3>
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<br /> <i>The transgender movement seems to have lost that concept. It is now about acquiescence and rights not mutual understanding.</i></h3>
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<i><br /> No wonder women - and society in general - are starting to disrespect trans people. </i></h3>
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<i><br /> You reap what you sow.<br /><br /> We just wish they would wake up to how this is not all about us. But about all people. All of us live in a community and you do not become part of that community by demanding entry and telling them that their rules are wrong. </i></h3>
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<i><br /> Transsexuals understand that. </i></h3>
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<i><br /> Transgender people need to or they will find themselves facing a less bright future than they deserve.</i></h3>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579717132315920955.post-70406689698729795682018-10-15T10:28:00.000-07:002018-10-20T14:16:34.167-07:00<h2>
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<span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="background-color: white;">TRANSSEXUAL WOMEN OPPOSING<br />SELF-ID:-<br />Why we are afraid</span></span></h2>
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NB:- Please bring this blog to wider attention. If you support the contents then pass on the link. Post any comments below. We will respond to these in our next statement on this blog.<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"> </span></h4>
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<span style="font-family: "verdana" , sans-serif;"><b style="font-size: x-large;">SOME FACTS</b><span style="font-size: large;">:-</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"> </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">We are a number of individual transsexual women who are expressing deep concern over planned government changes to the <b>GRA</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b> </b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">(The Gender Recognition Act; </span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">an act passed by parliament in 2004 by </span><span style="font-size: large;">large</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"> majority.)</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: large;">It was written for transsexual people</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">Doctors giving evidence then predicted there were 5000 of us in the UK who would qualify.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">As of August 2018 there were 4910 registered. About 3000 are transsexual women (who transition male to female) and the rest are transsexual men.</span></li>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">Yet the UK government state the act is not being used by enough applicants and want to extend it to add up to 500,000 people who define as transgender - including cross dressers.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">Consultation on this plan is about to close.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>Transsexual person</b> </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">A medically diagnosed condition from childhood.</span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">It involves acute stress from knowing that </span><span style="font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">psychologically</span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">that person is of opposite sex to the physiology of their body. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">A transsexual person knows that you cannot change biological sex but extensive psychotherapy and medical assistance alter their body to match with the mind and live in harmony. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">A large majority have had surgical alteration. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>Transgender </b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">A desire to adopt the lifestyle of the opposite sex, full time or part time, often expressing this via clothing and </span><span style="font-size: large;">make up<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">.</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">The desire to have surgery or other medical treatments is much less common (some suggest as low as 10% of cases only). </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">Few wish to see doctors or be psychiatrically evaluated. Some transition back and forth. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">(please quote or tweet any of the following)</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“Transsexualism is not just a feeling in our heads or about dressing up. We knew we had a problem, sought medical advice and followed treatments proposed to try to resolve the problem."</span></i></b></blockquote>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">"Medical transition was the last option after following medical treatment, not the first. It was not a choice.”</span></i></b></blockquote>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“Government suggest removing all medical gatekeeping and the crafted bonds of trust that establish medical necessity to change our legal status. We believe these safeguards are vital as a show of respect from us to society when seeking access into protected spaces such as toilets. Nobody should just demand this by right.”</span></i></b></blockquote>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“Transgender individuals deserve rights. However, women already have reasonable concerns about ceding their own rights to transsexuals via the GRA. Now transsexuals with rights gained through years of medical assessment are asked to hand them on to people who have done none of that. Diminishing further still the rights of women.”</span></i></b></blockquote>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“We worry that many of the 500,000 transgender accessing legal status would still be physically intact with male bodies or even capable of rape. Medically transitioned transsexual women would be as much at risk from them as would women.”</span></i></b></blockquote>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“Adapting the law would mean that it no longer covers a long established medical condition. The planned GRA changes would allow any person to state that they have changed sex and obtain a birth certificate proving so without any medical involvement at all.”</span></i></b></blockquote>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“We firmly believe that birth certificates should only be altered when doctors agree there are legitimate reasons. This change would remove that long standing principle.”</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">“As Transsexual people we know surgery does not mean that we literally become women. But we will happily engage in discourse with women to set boundaries based on mutual accord. We respect their right to do this</span>.”</i></b></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>“We make these physical changes to live within society as women without wishing to usurp women's necessary needs for privacy. Our medical treatment has left us mentally healthy adults who have for years afterward contributed fully to society. That is all we have ever sought.”</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i></i></b></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>“We are very concerned by the aggressive tactics and angry demands of the trans activists and just want to continue living peacefully via mutual respect as we have done for half a century. But changing the GRA from medical assessment must concern society, in particular women, who understandably say NO.”</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i></i></b></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>“They may conclude that the only solution will be to exclude everyone - including us. They cannot possibly know the physical or mental status of all those newly self-identified women who now selfishly demand acceptance because they say so.”</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i></i></b></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>“The proposed changes materially disadvantage women in order to benefit up to half a million who merely choose to self-identify as the opposite sex for various undiagnosed reasons. The 5000 presently registered transsexual people for whom the GRA was created 14 years ago are unhappy to be expected to cede rights to those unprepared to give society more than just their word that this should occur.”</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i></i></b></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>“If government choose this route, our years overcoming a medical condition and establishing our life to contribute fully to society becomes minimized to the status of a part time cross dresser or a sex offender asking for transfer to a female jail. Both are real events that have occurred recently.”</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i></i></b></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>“Some transsexual women who transitioned half a century ago are so scared about how this may damage their life we fear they might become prisoners in their homes. They are being told they may no longer be able to enter ladies toilets despite not having had male anatomy for most of their lives."</i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i><br /></i></b></span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i></i></b></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><i>"As a consequence - and like many women - we transsexuals ask the government to listen to us as we say NO to self ID."</i></b></span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"> We are 14 transsexual women who do not know one another but have come together to express these concerns. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">Our occupations are as follows.....</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;">1 x Writer and Event Organiser, 1 x Railway Engineer, 1 x Author and Radio Broadcaster, 1 x Chartered Engineer, 1 x Caterer, 1 x Retired Teacher, 1 x Broadcast Engineer, 1 x University Lecturer, 1 x Talk Show Host, 1 x Advisor at Citizens Advice, 1 x Electronic Engineer, 1 x Support Worker, 1 x Wedding Planner, 1 x Content Creator</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>IF YOU ARE A TRANSSEXUAL MAN OR WOMAN AND YOU AGREE WITH OUR CONCERNS PLEASE SHARE THIS MESSAGE AS WIDELY AS YOU CAN. </b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>IF YOU FEEL ABLE TO DO SO THEN PLEASE POST YOUR OWN OCCUPATION (NO NAME REQUIRED) IN A MESSAGE ON THIS BLOG. </b></span></b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>WE WILL LATER ADD IT TO THE LIST WHICH WE HOPE MAY DEMONSTRATE THAT TRANSSEXUALS GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO BECOME NORMAL PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.<br /><br />TRANSSEXUALS ARE NOT HERE TO ALTER DEFINITIONS OF WORDS IN A DICTIONARY OR OPPRESS OTHERS FROM DISAGREEMENT.</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></span> <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>WE DO NOT DEMAND AUTOMATIC ACCEPTANCE BY ALL.</b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>DISAGREEMENT OR CONFUSION IS NOT TRANSPHOBIC TO A TRANSSEXUAL.</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b><br /></b></span> <span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>IT IS HUMAN NATURE AND UNDERSTANDABLE</b></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com38